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???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? by Michael Mastrototaro

  what is art?

is art different after 9/11?

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Wednesday, October 16th, 2002 at 10:30


 
Re^1: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? by Ansgard Thomson

  what is art?
auf gut deutsch gesagt :
IN 2002 kann es sogar ein SCHEIßHAUFEN SEIN
aber Sandhaufen klingt besser ,da findet man vielleicht noch etwas das wie Kunst aussieht.
Der kleine Junge der eben einen pup in den Topf gemacht sagt auch
"look what I just did "
>is art different after 9/11?
No some artist will try to make a million with a film with the theme
and we will not been asked to judge .
nothing new michael not even new media without a fast computer

Wednesday, October 16th, 2002 at 22:18


 
Re^1: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? by phil ( 80.9.23.141 )

  what are you...?

are you different
after 9.11...?

BS didn't stop...

BS just got the volume turned up
because maybe we weren't paying enough attention...

chase BS or die now...?

Wednesday, October 16th, 2002 at 19:23


 
Re^2: ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? by russell pensyl

  if the world and everthing in it were to increase by twice it size would we be able to discern a change?

after the few days of relative calm a courtesy i noticed on the freeways after, and now, after being cut off and flipped off as often as before, it appears to me that the world was or is NOT a different place.

perhaps a real paradigm shift comes not from big traumas but from small shifts in how we react and respond to those around us. i have contend for years in my graduate seminars and critiques when they get to it that the our society at least here in the US is really not that much different than it has been for the last hundred years or so. the essential character and the way we interact with one another really has not changed very much at all. we are just able to do much quicker and with a lttle more callousness than in earliler times. there really isn't much difference, just a lot more of it.

i really don't expect things to change for the "better." this is as good as it is going to get. it is a perfect yet "imperfect" world. perhaps our role as humans in it is really to learn to find a way to make the most mundane, simple and overlooked parts of our experience as important as those we seem to recognize as the monumetal or horrendous as the case may be. perhaps tieing my shoes is as deep and sublime an experience as can be afforded me and i just cannot recognize it.

as the sufi mystic P.D. Ouspensky said, "there is only the pain that one person can feel and no more. a million feeling the same pain does not increase total any more than what can be felt by one." to me it seems that the amount of pain that one can feel is so much more immense than what i can conceive.

i have a memory that i cannot quite shake, that seeps back in to my consiousness. but i am still the same selfish and coldhearted jerk i was on sept 10.

Wednesday, October 16th, 2002 at 23:44


   
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